This week we are talking about how to lead your church when a staff member has a moral failure. Joining me on the podcast this week are Pastor Ken Baugh and Pastor John Baker.
As always, after you listen to the podcast be sure to come back here and post a comment to keep the conversation going.
Thanks friend,
rick
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18 responses so far ↓
Ben Dubow // April 26, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Great podcast! Thanks Rick!!!
Bill Hayes // April 27, 2007 at 7:50 am
Thanks for great suggestions on a hard topic!
Brian Moss // April 27, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Awesome podcast! Thoroughly practical and unfortunately relevant.
Doug Millar // April 27, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Thanks so much for taking the time to do these podcast.
LARRY HAND // April 27, 2007 at 8:29 pm
I SO APPRECIATED THE DISCUSSION DEALING WITH MORAL FAILURE.
PLEASE SEND ME A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT YOU SENT OUT TO YOU CONGREGATION.
WITH HIGH REGARD,
LARRY HAND
Mike Logan // April 28, 2007 at 6:36 am
Excellent Podcast – A sensitive but important topic.
Rick, I’d like to get a copy of those letters to your flock and staff.
Always edified through your leadership Rick…
RANDY COOTS // April 28, 2007 at 8:03 am
Thanks Pastors Rick, Ken, and John for the insight on this awesome subject. As a young minister with a young ministry it really helps to sit in and learn from some of God’s chosen. This was truly a Blessing. Thanks for the podcast.
For His Cause,
Pastor Randy
Roger Garcia // April 28, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Really usefull for daily personal life and church life. Blessings from El Salvador.
Edward Veloz // April 28, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Pastor Rick, Ken and John thank you for your teaching, this is something that proves that being PD is not being “easy” with the moral issues people face every day is just being biblical. Your brother on Christ. From the Dominican Republic.
Jim // April 28, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Dear Pastor Rick,
Thanks for your heart to help other pastors, and thank you for an excellent podcast on a very sensitive, yet crucial subject.
I heard you say today that you have given your small group permission to call you down when you are not displaying a humble attitude. Now I see why God is able to use you. He lifts up those who are humble. Thank you for sharing that and so much more with us.
Jim
John Haggard // April 29, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Thank you, Rick, Ken, and John, for this proactive podcast message to help prevent another tragedy caused by living in the flesh instead of living in God’s word.
David J. Edwards // April 29, 2007 at 8:09 pm
I would like to get a copy of the Ten Commandments that Pastor Rick gives to his staff. Is it available to those outside of your staff?
Thanks.
Justin // April 30, 2007 at 12:19 am
Great practicals in dealing with this thorny issue. Can you send me your letter you sent to the congregation.
Thanks
Justin
Rev. George van der Westhuizen // April 30, 2007 at 1:20 am
Very incitefull and helpful Podcast – My wife found it and drew my attention to it, so we sat down this Monday and listened to it. We are going to make it a weekly or daily (depending on how often you podcast) routine. I live in Africa and am the pastor of 2 very small churches. I would love to recieve the items mentioned in the podcast. (12 commandments of saddleback) – (Rick’s letters to flock and staff) Now for the most important part of my little blog – I would like to be an accountability partener with someone – there are things you cannot – or perhaps do not because of pride or some other concern or sin – confess to the wife or congregation. Perhaps we can start a network of Skype or Google talk, accountability partnerships. I for one need one.
All for Jesus
George
Louie Marsh // April 30, 2007 at 8:47 am
Great podcast on a much needed subject. I would like the letter send to me also as it could serve as a valuable resource in the future.
I have two questions about what you said. You said you’d never write another book with the term “Purpose Driven” in it. Are you using another term and if so what?
Same with seeker – you said you don’t use it – so what do you use?
Thanks for the podcast – it’s really blessed me!
Rick // May 3, 2007 at 8:48 am
Absolutely great stuff. Thanks for the honesty and openness and don’t worry about the length of it. (Toward the end you commented it might be a little longer than usual.)
I can always hit pause and take a break if I need to but you can’t find this kind of stuff elsewhere.
Mike Sorcinelli // June 7, 2007 at 6:41 am
I’m a 26 year old youth pastor and recently at our church a 79 year old veteran of the faith who had planted 10+ churches in Japan while serving for 43 years as a missionary there, turned out to be a practicing homosexual. It was particularly devastating to our church because he grew up at our church and after serving on the mission field in Japan for 43 years came back to our church and has served there for the last 10 years. I guess that’s why it’s important to have both mentors (living) and models (dead) like Rick said, in case a mentor has a moral failure you can still look up to someone who has finished strong. I pray that all of us pastors, at the end our lives, can say as Paul did…I have fought the good fight, I’ve run hard right to the end, I’ve kept the faith. And now the crown of righteousness awaits me that Christ will give me on that day (2 Timothy 4:7-8).
Seiji & Kathy Oyama // July 6, 2007 at 7:07 am
Wanted to let you know that Seiji has had a group for pastors here in Tokyo for the last two years plus, a safe place for them to deal with their issues. Lives are being changed, and as the leaders are becoming more authentic and healthy, so are the churches they pastor. If you would like more info., please contact Seiji at seiji@pdjapan.com.
I have quite a few women in church leadership in my groups as well. They say they that had heard of acceptance and authenticity in relationships, but had never experienced in the church until they joined the road to recovery.
Kathy Oyama